Thursday, February 01, 2007

Medical Vrs. Hollistic


There is a holy war going on, it is medical vrs. holistic. Neither one likes each other very much, but both are extremely necessary.

In an earlier post, I stated some generalizations about OBGYN's and the medical system - which received criticism, and rightly so - it got me thinking, so here I write...

Some would say the difference between the 2 sides, is that holistic is perhaps more preventative, while the medical system is fixing what is broken. I say "2 sides" because even though both are different, with different qualities and necessities, they eye each other evilly and criticize each other bitterly. While one Doctor preaches that herbs and chiropractic practices are dangerous, another Chiropractor or Homeopathic doctor will tell you that antibiotics are dangerous...both have points!

Our decision to have a home birth was looked at with great concern and distaste from some friends and family - Even though people have been having hospital births only as of recent years in history...and the human race exists!

My 'medical nurse'-sister witnessed our first home birth with what I interpreted as fear, concern, and then relief. My midwife for my first was 'the first' midwife in MB, and has been known to 'help' deliver more babies than any doctor or OBGYN in the province. She was accompanied by my present midwife, who was a neonatal nurse for 20yrs. before she pursued midwifery. (I have decided not to use names of doctors or midwives, unless referring to a book that a doctor has written, in this post.)

I mention 'help deliver babies', because I believe that is the correct term midwives tend to use - in other words they don't deliver babies, the women in labour do!

I was a little harsh in an earlier post, stating that 'once you go with a midwife, you'll never go back to an OBGYN' - I should have stated, that, that has been my experience...I have had extremely positive, relational experiences with midwives, and unfortunately not with doctors (part of this is that the system does not allow for the time). This is not to say good ones don't exist - I have friends who have AWESOME doctors, and have had great birth experiences with them...I have dealt with a well-known OBGYN in the city, who has been known to go and find pregnant-cocaine-addicted moms, and gotten them off the street - now that is beyond Care!

Complications are not always avoidable. Without intervention in my first pregnancy, I guess I may have died of a burst fallopian and internal bleeding. With some hospitalization, a little chemo, and some excruciating pain, we can have children and my husband is not widowed.

The first books I read on the subject of pregnancy were from the 'what to expect when you are expecting' series, which have been unfortunately referred to as 'the pregnancy and birth books from hell', and were written by doctors. As I read them, my fear grew and I felt more and more like pregnancy was a disease, plagued with complications and 'what ifs', rather than a natural life process. Then I was introduce the Dr. Sears series (now a hero of mine), written by DOCTOR Sears, and my mind was renewed with truths like, "my body is made to do this", "women have been doing this since the beginning of time - and so can I!"
Even he pointed out that in many cases, complications were as a result of medical interventions....One thing leads to another, a spinal anesthetic can lead to a cesearean if it causes the women not to feel or want to Push.

I guess I believe that there has been some brainwashing going on in both camps. I grew up influenced by my mother who is a Vegan-Raw-Foodist, who has referred to the health care system, as the disease control system...she treated us kids with herbs as much as possible, rather than antibiotics.

I think a lot of angst actually comes from the fact that pharmaceutical companies, who sometimes have ulterior motives, finance much of our health care system. (Is it the movie "the Constant Gardener" that unveils some possibilities?) Although Nestle is not a pharm. company, it does frustrate me that they shove formula down the throats of 2/3 world families, with only bad water available, and so babies are dying, that could have been saved by breast feeding! And there is nestle all over the place in hospitals and doctors offices.

My last appt. with my former family doctor, was the day he apologized that he was late because one of his pharm. companies had taken him out for lunch. Some would call that bribery? Perhaps my words are strong - I know that it is not all bad - a dear friend of ours is in Paris, doing his Doctorate in BioChem. and working to find cures to some pretty horrible diseases - that is AWESOME!

At the bottom of the criticism towards the health care system is the reality that it is because it is over worked and abused, and society is under educated in preventative measures. An example of abuse/under education is when we brought Selah in to Children's Emerg. at 1yr. b/c she had been thrown head first into a moving ceiling fan at a family gathering - sounds horrible - it was scary....the nurse was great (of course it took a few hours to see a doc.) but we felt sorry for her, being so overworked, she told us that a kid had come by ambulance b/c he threw up a couple of times with a simple flu - while her own child was at home throwing up with a similar flu. I guess what some of us are saying is that there could be a healthier (no pun intended) balance!

7 comments:

  1. My mom was trained as an RN (but hasn't worked as one for over 30 years) and is totally for "preventative medicine" -- herbs etc. She often refers to doctors as "consultants", ie. they are not god and you are not obligated to take their advice, trained and educated as it is. Another one of her soapboxes is the over-use of antibiotics -- if you are always taking them for things they can't help, then when you really need them, they will be ineffective.

    I have had several friends who are pharmacists and doctors and they would definitely vouch for the fact that doctors are "encouraged" by different drug companies to prescribe their drugs. Being taken out for lunch is small potatoes... I've heard of trips to Monacco, large electronics...etc. etc.

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  2. WOW Cheri - that is amazing - trips to Monacco, large electronics...could sound more like a sales job! Ya - my fam. is into less is best of the antibiotics! not too mention child's tylenol, has been strongly linked to liver transplant - as tylenol sales have sky rocketed, so have liver transplants.

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  3. You are getting closer to finding that balance.

    With my first child, i had a midwife. NEVER again. I had an inept midwife. She never showed up. My husband and nurse caught the baby. I had a LOT of complications. The midwife wouldn't sign off, nor show up. Becasue she would not sign off, the docotr's role could be very limited. I had 3 DAYS of labour. My son (and I) barely survived. My second child i went with my family GP. I had complications again, but he signed me off into a knowledgeable obgyn.

    The conclusion? There are good and bad practitioners everywhere. The criteria in choosing a practitioner needs to be established separate from the field of medicine.

    A herb is a chemical. Water is a chemical. Tea tree oil is an antibiotic, just like amoxicillin is an antibiotic. Where do you think these 'evil' pharmaceutical companies come up with ides? Look in nature.

    Look in your dictionary. Please stop misusing these connotations.

    To the previous post, Tylenol is one of the biggest medical breakthroughs. It goes into the body, attackes the fever and pain, and does little else. Linking tylenol to liver transplants just like that? Please, show me some credible researh before you make that claim. Tylonel has saved my first son's life countless of times. He has a condition where he has no sweat glands and cannot regulate his body temperature. A fever to him, if not moderated by Tylenol, Advil, cold baths (which are not enough alone), still lead to heat seizures. Heat seizures = brain damage, leads to death. Even of there was the slightest chance of liver damage from using tylenol, I'd rather have a son who is alive.

    Consider yoursleves lucky if you are able to have a home birth with a midwife. That would be my preference too. But please, stop misinforming others about the evils of our health care system. It is not perfect, but the benefits far outweigh it. You may be preventing someone from accessing preventative primary care. Also, many of us would not be alive (myself, my two sons) without it.

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  4. Interesting Reaction! wondering Helen - if you read the Whole post? - i said that my life has been saved by medicine aswell!

    i would encourage anyone who has NO problem w/antibiotics - WHICH are VERY different from their ORIGINAL form in a plant, to do a little research(from the right place!)... history always plays a role in how things turn out - in this case, history of pharmaceutical companies, were often more about industry and less about actually healing - being the elite - so that housewives, herbalists, etc. "couldn't heal" only stuff that came out of labs could - which is a lie! Anyone who does a little research on medicine and it's come abouts/history will find that it is tainted - i guess everything is!

    One claims that Tylenol saved thier child, another, will say there child died of related use. One person gets chemo. for cancer, and another is healed of the same cancer thru natural means (raw, vegan, juicing).

    It is only right that we question the 'mainstream' thought!

    I do consider myself fortunate to have had a postive home birth experience. And no, i haven't had all succesful pregnancies - as i have earlier said! But i also hold to the fact that women generally are misinformed about pregnancy, labour, and childbirth in mainstream thought. How many women's first labour experience, was thier FIRST-having never witnessed it ever before.

    It is a known fact that many and most medical staff know more about intervention then natural child birth process. Some wellknown doctors/authors who make these kind of claims would be Dr. William Sears, Dr. Grantly-Dickread (Childbrith w/o Fear), and also i forget his name, a Dr. in France who wrote Childbirth w/o Violence...

    my sister paid me a great compliment recently, in a discussion about the labour and birth of her son(that took place almost a year ago, in a hospital) she said that i had helped her get that baby out more than any nurse or doctor there - i was surprised at this - my sister who is a nurse. It is all about belief, and letting go of fear. not everything is avoidable...saying this, there are also many times when intervention is!

    Helen - you say that i may be preventing someone from getting proper care - but i could say the same thing about those who's faith is more in the system...you may say that someone could die b/c of non-medical intervention - but i the same is true for the opposite, someone could die b/c of some medical intervention - both has happened.

    ultimately we each follow what our hearts say - or what God says to our hearts!

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  5. argh. i have been somewhat misinterpretted. perhaps i was typing faster than thinking.

    my underlying point, not just to you, but to all who visit your blog, is that we need to stop saying someone is good or bad depending on the branch of medicine they practice. yes, i call both spectrums branches of medicine.

    we need to start equipping everyone with knowledge in assessing good and bad practitioners.

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  6. I would like to add to this conversation that if the medical doctors would study and promote preventative care and encourage their patients to be responsible for their own health, then we might not be in such a state with our medical system. I mean the long waits, not enough doctors, etc.

    Cheri's mom

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